Freelance Writing Courses Pros and Cons

Wondering about the good and bad when it comes to a freelance writing course you're considering enrolling in? This week's livestream is going over what to look for in a good freelance writing course, what are some red flags to watch out for, and the benefits and costs to signing up for a freelance writing course.

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Freelance Writing Courses Pros and Cons

This is exactly what you need to know before you invest in any freelance writing course. And if you've mentioned a freelance writing course, I've probably taken it or looked at it or known someone who's taken it. So I've taken all the things. Um, and I'm here to walk you through kind of the pros and cons to certain courses and certain things to look out for.

So this is really important when you're considering, you know, handing over your hard earned money to join a course and to grow your freelance writing business. So we're gonna go through pros and cons today, and I have a couple of announcements that we're gonna do first. So I'm running my free masterclass right now, um, about how to build a hiring freelance writing business.

Hey, Getty, welcome in. If you wanna join that, you can go there's three slots open. So if you go to mandy.com/masterclass one, that masterclass is on Tuesday, September 6th, at 2:00 PM central. So 3:00 PM Eastern. And noon Pacific time. That's so masterclass one is on Tuesday, September 6th at 2:00 PM central.

If you wanna sign up for that, that's mans.com/masterclass one, if you want the second one, the second one is on Wednesday, September 7th, that one's at 8:00 PM central 9:00 PM. Eastern 6:00 PM Pacific. So if you go to mandela.com/masterclass two, uh, that'll bring you to the Wednesday one, and this is still the same free masterclass.

And then I have one more and I only offer this class twice a year. So if you wanna join this free class, it's only offered twice a year. I'm not gonna offer it until April, like, like late April of 2023. So it'll be a long time before the free class comes back. You can go to mandy.com/masterclass three, and that masterclass is Wednesday, September 14th.

And that is at, um, 2:00 PM central. So 3:00 PM Eastern and noon Pacific time. So, if you go to any of those, it's basically just mandela.com/masterclass one masterclass two, or masterclass three. Those are the dates and times. This is my free class. I've updated it. So, Hey, Vicky, welcome in. I always love the wave.

Um, it always makes my day . Um, so if you wanna join the free class, this is only open twice a year. I updated it with a bunch of stuff with like this stuff that's going on right now. So there's a lot of changes in things that are going on for freelance writers. So I've updated the class to kind of reflect that and give you guys kind of new strategies.

So even if you've taken the class before, there's gonna be new stuff in there, I don't wanna keep reteaching the same stuff over and over again. Hey, joy. Welcome in. Uh, so it's updated there's new stuff for all of the, like what do I do with the potential recession? What do I do with like all the stuff that's going on?

So that's in there too. So I'd love for you to join me live. If you can't join the class live. There will be replays, but you can only get the replays. If you sign up, I do this every time. Everyone's like, how do I get the replay you have to sign up. So if you go to any of those links, mandy.com/master class one, or master class two or master class three, right?

Any of those sign up for one, you'll get the replay. So that's the only way to get the replay. It's not like a, a live stream. It's not like you can get it here on YouTube. I'm not publishing it here. Um, it's only for people who are signing up for the class. It's free. It's $0. um, so I'd love to see you there.

If you can't join it, always get the, uh, replay by signing up. All right. Let's get into pros and cons of freelance writing courses. Here we go. And here's our little friends. There's, they're being quiet over there. So we're not gonna say anything about them because otherwise they're not gonna be quiet. so, number one, this is the first thing that we're going.

1) What to look for in a good freelance writing course

Let's talk about what we should look for in a freelance writing course. These are the pros, these are important things. So number one, I'm gonna go through all the pros and important stuff of what we should look for, um, in our freelance writing courses. So number one, it's from someone who's been a freelance writer long enough that they can troubleshoot your issues, right?

So this is something that I found is really important. Like I've taken courses or free things, or, um, actually both free and paid from different types of people and different types of writers. And there's times where people just can't help you troubleshoot. They're like, here's this small formula that I used.

And now here you use it and magically, everything will work out. But then when your business is different, because every freelance writer's business is different. You're like, what do I do now? and then they're like, I don't know, that never happened to me. Right? They either haven't been a freelance writer long enough, or they haven't really gotten to all those struggle points in their business.

And every freelance writer gets to struggle points. It's just a matter of when that happens, where you going um, but for me, I've found that there's a lot of times, no, we're not starting this now go back to your HOA hole, go back to your HOA hole, chill out for a while. I found that, um, for me, when I ended up having issues, like I'm like, what is this weird client situation?

Or how do I get paid for this? Or, um, what, how do I expand my business in this way? They were like, I don't know. I only know this one format. And then you're like, okay, well, like what do I do? So for me, I've often found that it's people with a lot of deep experience. So I like taking courses personally and a pro for a freelance writing course for me is that someone has deep experience.

Like, not just that they've been a freelance writer for a long time, but they've written in a bunch of niches. They understand how to help other people in different niches than them. They've answered a ton of questions. They know how to troubleshoot things. They've been through all these. Hard points in their business.

So they're like, oh yeah, I know that sucks. Like here's how I dealt with it. Here's how you, here's like four different ways. You can try to fix it or move forward. So for me, I like the celebrated is that the too, too, is that what we're doing right now? Um, so yeah, I always, I like the little, um, emojis that we put in there.

So for me, it's really important to have someone with deep experience who can help you troubleshoot. That's really critical, especially someone who's written for a bunch of different things. Like I find sometimes when I took a course for someone who only worked for businesses, that it was really hard to have them help me with other things like magazines or online publications or, um, moving into different stuff that I wanted to like take my business with different routes.

So that I found was really important to have someone with a bunch of different types of experience and deep experience. So that's the first thing, the second pro for a freelance writing course. Is that you're getting someone who has, um, who has like really had to struggle at some point and figure it out.

So I know this sounds like a weird pro, but for me, when I was taking courses from people who didn't really like, they, they were just like my first year I made six figures or like, you know, like their first year as a freelance writer, not like their first full year fulltime, because that's different. You can be part-time for like 10 years and go full-time and like, then everything expands.

But for me, I found that like a lot of times when it, it was like this fast cash kind of thing, or when someone was like, yeah, I did this. And it magically worked out. Like they missed all of the important failures that actually help you build a long lasting freelance writing business. And I took these courses and I watched these videos and stuff, and I was just like, well, like how does this last long term, like either their strategies were very burnout prone or it was like, yeah, you just do this a lot forever.

And I'm like, I don't wanna do that a lot forever. I wanna do that a lot to get my business going. And then I wanna kind of like figure out what works best for me and kind of do that. Um, so I found that like, just every time when I talk to different freelance writers, like the ones who have really had to struggle and be like, yes, I need to grow my business.

Like, no matter what I have to figure this out, those are the ones that have the best lessons. Um, those are the ones where like you're learning from their failures. So you don't have to avoid those failures. Number one. And then number two, it's like they've failed enough or they've gotten down deep enough in the hole that they're like, I know what works to bring your business out of the hole.

Like every time I've been in the hole, I do X or I do Y or Z or whatever it is. And that helps them kind of keep their business. and there's this scrappiness and there's these, um, things that you just learn in the hole. Like I always call it a hole, cuz it feels like you're in a deep, dark hole where you're like, there's no clients, there's no money.

We're never gonna do this. Um, whenever you're in that hole, like all of the failures and lessons you learn in that hole, those are my best lessons. Those are the things that have helped me grow my business to six figures. And without them, I'm pretty sure it would've taken me even longer to get to six figures.

Like I had to learn those lessons. Um, and I feel like when I'm learning from someone who's like, yeah, I've been there. This is like, you gotta get scrappy. And here are all the ways to get scrappy when you really have to like pay your bills. Like this is, you know, you wanna keep writing, you wanna pay your bills.

This is how you have to do it. So those kinds of things are things that you can't teach unless you've been there. And for me, when I was taking courses or learning from people who didn't have to get very scrappy or didn't have to dig themselves out of a hole, they were just like, magically, everything worked out fast cash.

Like you can make $10 billion. And five days, like when I took those courses, it was like, it was so surface level and it didn't give me enough tools. Like I could, yeah. I could get some gigs and yeah, I could kind of move along, but it didn't give me longevity. It didn't teach me how to build a freelance writing business.

Like the course didn't teach me how to, how to really build the framework of a freelance writing business to last it didn't give me tools that I'm like, oh shit. what do I do when this horrible thing happens? Or like, how do I kind of pivot? Or how do I get to like content strategy? I hear you. I hear you over there.

And it's really important that we talk about this Charlotte right now. This is important and you with your, with your weird ear. So it didn't, you know, a lot of these courses weren't giving me the job pets, can you gimme a high five high, five other one good job. Um, weren't giving me like the scalability, because a lot of times what ends up happening is you have these courses that are created just from like basic stuff, you know, and the basic stuff.

And I'm not trying to shit on other people's courses. I'm just saying that, like, for me, there are specific pros and cons to building a long term freelance writing business, like something that continues to pay, pay your family's bills that gives you the longevity to write in a bunch of different fields and do all this stuff that you wanna do.

Like there's stuff that just they're just like, just do this forever. Or, yeah, I made this much money in the first three to six months of my business. And then it's like, well, what about the first three to six years? And they didn't actually stick with it long enough to. Really build, you know, a business that they could teach someone like, all right, you gotta get down and dirty for a while.

Like, you know, you gotta build the framework of the house and then you can worry about paint colors, and then you can worry about all this other stuff. Um, can you go back to have a whole thank you. And I think that's super important. Like we're not trying to build freelance writing businesses that are like fly by night.

Like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna make a thousand dollars in article. Like forever. There gets to be a point and I've seen no go back to your how hole this happens all the time. You're you're, you're close. You're close to being kicked out many. Um, here's the deal. There comes a time in every freelance writer's life, right?

Where you pivot, you're tired of doing blog posts. This happen. I've seen this happen to myself. My friends, like all the, my, like my students. They're just like, I'm so tired of writing this repetitive content and it may not be blog posts. It may be. Um, something similar to a blog post, like they're writing too many magazine articles or they're writing too many small pieces of content.

And they're just like, how do I get out of this hamster wheel of content? And a lot of times you take these courses and they're like, just do that, just do the hamster wheel of content forever. They don't teach you how to get to a white paper, how to get to a case, study, how to get to content strategy, how to get to messaging and positioning, how to get paid the big Jo big dollars for your ideas and your strategies and your consulting.

Like they're not actually scaling your business. They're just like, here's how to write an article. Good luck with that for the next thousand years. right. And that just every freelance writer I've seen my students, um, all different types are pivoting and changing their business. You get to a point where you just get tired of like repetitive stuff, right.

You wanna do more in depth stuff like case studies or white papers or content strategy. And there's times where it's like. , they they'll teach you a little bit in one course, and then they like upsell you. And they're like, well, to get the more advanced version, you need more. And then to get this more advanced version, you need more, uh, instead of bundling it into one course, like give them all the tools.

Like that was a frustration point for me. Um, that really drove me to create my course. This is like one of my cruxes of freelance writer. Wealth lab is like, I was tired of people being like, buy more, like, just give me all the stuff, give me all the stuff, teach me how to do the, the basic stuff to build the framework.

That's super important that I'm gonna have to rely on for my bread and butter. Teach me how to do the functional stuff of my business and how to scale it. Like how do I actually make changes in my business once I've got the fundamentals down, teach me that. And so that's what I did with freelance writer.

Wealth lab was just because I got so frustrated with these other courses, right? That's a big, important pro to me is like, not only do you give me the foundation, but you're actually teaching me to grow the business. Like scale the business without like overwhelmed without the burnout, without the repetitive hamster wheel forever.

Like without feast and famine. Right. And a lot of times, um, that to me is just like, it's a lack of like knowledge about the industry. It's a lack of having to suffer at some point and struggle. Nope. You gotta go back to your HOA hole or you're gonna be kicked out, go back to your HOA hole. You SAS, we're doing important stuff right now.

Yeah. She is a mouse. Yeah. So the upselling thing is just like, it just gets really frustrating to me. So I feel like a course needs to kind of give you that blueprint. It needs to give you the blueprint of like, all right, like let's build the thing. Like here's all the wood, all the nails let's build the framework of the house.

Let's put the concrete foundation in which takes forever. Right? When you put the foundation in. You have to put the concrete in and then it has to cure, right? You're you're not just making it smooth and dumping it in and moving on with your life, you have to cure it. Then you have to build the framework and then you have to build the roof and like all the size and all the stuff, that stuff is the same thing as building your freelance riding business, you can't just, um, fly by night at like, you, you get to this point where you're just tired of the hamster wheel.

Like this is where I get a lot of students where they're like, yes, I took other courses and they either upsold me to like, get more actual knowledge or what ends up happening is they're like, yeah, they just told me to repeat this thing for a a hundred more years. And I'm like, why would you do that? Why wouldn't you want to get paid more money for the, for all the knowledge you just learned?

Why wouldn't you wanna do like strategy or consulting or something like that? Um, and I'm just saying like, for me, there's, I've just seen this so many times. Everybody gets to a point where they're tired of doing a repetitive type of something, repetitive blog, post repetitive reported articles, um, a repetitive number of small things.

And they're just like, how do I expand that I've gained all this experience and knowledge? How do I expand that? That was something that I think if you find a course that helps you expand that that's super critical. Hey Marie, welcome in all right. Taking a little breather. Um, Marie says my plan, I needed money, um, was taking content mail jobs for instant money and then focused on the skills and tools to build long term.

Oh yeah. So Marie is one of my students. So she's been through freelance writer, wealth lab, and um, in freelance writer, wealth lab, you get lifetime access. So you just, you can go back through the course as many times as you want. Um, I've had multiple students just like hang out and just keep doing the course over and over again with new students.

Um, cuz they learn something new or um, they just like the environment. It's fun. Um, yeah, and every time Maria's gone through it, she's built new stuff or gotten new clients. Or, um, for me, it's kind of like this grocery store idea. Vicky says, writing down ideas for learning materials I can offer in the future.

You should do that. You should do that. Write these things down, like things that you learn in your freelance writing career, those are things, excuse me. Hi. Uh, those are things that you can monetize later, right? Like the reason that I offered templates, like if you, um, go to Mandy ls.com/bundle, the reason I offer those templates is because, um, I learned, I learned how to do that thing.

Like I learned how to do get all my contracts, all my marketing templates, all my Lois, all my social media stuff, all my, you know, not social media, but my connection requests on LinkedIn. Um, and then everyone was like asking me how I was doing it. And I was like, well, I'll just make a template and make it affordable.

You know, um, or make a template pack. There's actually a lot in there. So that's the thing is like, that's important. Like if you can take a course or you can, you know, learn in your business, a bunch of things that are really helpful, it gives you another income stream. Right. It gives you something where you're like, Hey, I'm not only helping other freelance writers, but I can make a little bit of extra money because I've learned all this extra stuff.

Right. So, um, yeah. So Vicky says this, you will get tired of beginner stuff. Thing is refreshing realistic. Yeah. I just, I've been a freelance writer for all like 10 years. Right. And I just see this over and over again where there's these courses that are only baby stuff. It's like, just so frustrating because it's like, you're only in the baby phase of your business for so long.

Some people that's like three to six months. Sometimes that's a year. Sometimes that's three years everybody's on their own. But the deal is that everybody gets tired of that. I've seen it so many times. Like people just get so like, so bored of it and we're writers, we're creative. We wanna do other stuff.

Right. There's other ways that we can use our talents and our knowledge and our experience rather than just being the, the keyboard monkey. Right. Like just typing in me, you know, like going off at our day. So yeah. There's like this thing that I find a lot of times with courses where they're just like wanting to give you all this baby stuff, like the baby stuff does work.

Right. What they give you works, but it doesn't actually give you kind of like, how do I get to the next stage over and over and over again? Like how do I keep getting to all of these extra stages? Uh, and that for me was so frustrating and that's what I put into my course. That's what I put into freelance started wealth lab.

Cause I was just like, why is no one doing this, please. Somebody do it. And then I was like, well, if no one will do it, I will do it. Um, um, Marie says I wrote a job last week. That will gross more. That will gross what I made the entire year before joining the wealth lab. Yeah. So Marie, one of the cool things about Marie is, um, oops, I didn't mean to do that is, um, not only.

So she joined the wealth lab, not only did she, um, earn more money and she's working less. So like she was working seven days a week. I often tell this story because like, I think it's really important cuz a lot of us are working like as freelance writer, seven days a week, no vacations, no time off. Um, and then Marie is now only working.

I forget what it is like 30, 20, 30 hours a week. And then she has weekends off and she has VA. She actually gets to take vacation. She actually has time to herself. Um, and also she's making more money, right? Like now that she has the wealth lab, right. She can make more money, which is important. All right.

So more, um, I'm gonna go over like a couple more pros then we're gonna get kind. So the other pro that I think is really important with a freelance writing course is that it comes with some kind of. community aspect. This is something that I think is a big value add. Oh, sorry. But there you go. Um, is a big value add because when you have a freelance writing course, if you can't ask questions or connect with other writers, you're missing out on so much, like being able, I don't care if it's a slack group.

I don't care if it's like a weekly zoom hangout, whatever, some kind of thing where I can ask questions and interact with other writers, because I've told this story before. Like my second best way that I get work in my business is through my friends is like, they understand my business. They know what I'm looking for.

Um, they know what clients I want and they just send me stuff. They're like, Hey, I saw this article and thought of you or, Hey, I saw this thing or, um, I have this client, who's not a fit for me and might be a fit for you. Or they just like connect me with people on LinkedIn. All of those things are really important.

And I built those through communities. Right. And that's really important that I think the, the course and the community go together because you need to meet other writers who are on your level, who are trying to grow, who are trying to build a business that actually last long term, right? Those people are the ones who are motivated to keep going, just like you.

And then you kind of create this beautiful, like symphony of referrals and friends and, and when you're struggling, you can depend on them. And when you're celebrating, they can celebrate with you. Um, and then you have the option to ask questions, right? So like, for me, it was critical when I took a course that like, I need to speak with the person in charge, like the person running the course.

I don't care if we speak one on one, but I need to be able to ask you questions cause I'm gonna have a lot of 'em. Um, and I just think that's super important because the course material, it can be interpreted a couple different ways, right? Like you be like, wait, you said this, but then you said this, like, I don't get it.

You need to be thank you for the lick. You're cute. Cutie. And I love. You need to be able to like, have access to someone to put the puzzle pieces. Like, you know, when you're like, Hey, I, I, I saw you did this, right. And then you said this, but it's not connecting, like help. That needs to be, um, that needs to be kind of at the forefront.

So another pro to a Lance writing courses is like, it has to have a community piece, uh, like a question piece, like something like for me, um, I've been in a few slack groups. I've had some zoom sessions. Um, I've been in courses where like, like my courses on circle. So like we have the freelance writer, wealth lab course material is on teachable.

And then the community, the wealth lab community is hosted on circle. Um, and so those things kind of go together. But for me, like just having a group or having someone to ask questions to was critical, like that, they've gotta have that. it helps you take action. It helps you stay accountable. It helps you get answers to your questions.

When you're trying to go through the material and move forward, it helps you create community and referrals and, um, people who are like on your level, who get it. And I think that's really important. Um,

um, Vicky says a fellow writer friend helped me figure out whether an editor request was genuine because their social media showed they had worked with them in the future. Yeah. And that was the important thing is like, you have to make more of these writer friends. Right. And that community piece, part of the course helps you kind of do that.

You're like, is this a scam? This is weird. Like, how do I figure this out? Um, all of that stuff I think is super, super important. Um, maybe you think that you can go at it alone, which is fine. You can for a while, but there's gonna be a lot of like a lot of stuff you're missing out on, like who. You're gonna miss out on the option of having a bunch of freelance friends who get it.

Like, I have lots of friends who just don't get it. Like they don't get what I do. They don't get how hard certain things are. And like, even if I tell them, right, like even if I tell them like, this is what it's like, they're like, oh, that sucks. Or, oh, that's awesome. But they don't actually get it. But when you have freelance writer, friends, and you have a community, um, as you're learning and growing, I think that really helps a lot with like people who actually get it.

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was it a long book? An ongoing con a study. Okay. What I'm guessing joy. Are you asking Marie? Oh yeah. So you're asking Marie. Okay, cool. Um, so that's an important thing. And then the last pro, I'm gonna say, um, hello. The last pro that I'm gonna say? Um, that I think is a really important thing for freelance writing courses is that they're allowing you to continue.

Like, not only do you get the, you don't get overwhelmed by the material, right? Like it's, it's presented in a way that you can take action immediately, but you're allowed to access that like forever. I think that's really important. So for me, when I was taking a course, I needed to like review lessons.

Like I would go, I hear you. I hear you. And I see your complaints. Thank you for the hand for the, the high five. So as I'm going through, um, the things that, Nope, go back to your ho hole, go back to your Hoba hole. I've already given you like a thousand treats. Go back to your HOA hole, go back to your ho hole.

That's it. Okay. So, um, what was I saying? Um, Oh, the drip. So when you get these lessons, they're no, go back to your ho hole. Okay. Go back to your HOA hole. No, you're gonna bump stuff. Lay down. Good girl. Um, they give you lessons on like a basis that you can actually handle. So something that I've done in my course is I've given implementation weeks and I slowly give you lessons so that you can actually do it.

Uh, I find that sometimes, like, it sounds like a great thing when you're like, yes, you get all access to all the course stuff at the very beginning. Then what happens is you get so overwhelmed cuz you're you end up being like check box, check, box, check box. I finished all the lessons, but you haven't actually absorbed anything and you haven't been able to take action cuz you're so obsessed with like finishing the course.

Like you just wanna kind of get through that checklist. Right. And I've done that a bunch where I'm like sweet. I'll do all of it at once. and what ends up happening is I'm like, wait, what was that? And what did I learn? And they're like, you only have access to the course for like the next 30 days. Good luck.

You're like what? So for me, when I built my course, when I built freelance writer, wealth lab, I was, I thought it was really important to like give people chunks of information so they could actually do it, give them implementation weeks so they could put things into action and actually move forward and then also give them lifetime access.

So they can go back. There's been many times where I've had courses that I've gone back and I'm like, what did you say? Like, I remember there was a template or a something, and I would go back to the course and be like, oh, that's where it is. And I needed to have that access to it. So I could go back and keep learning.

And I think that's important. Like you paid for the material, you should be able to go back and use that material. Right. So I thought for me, when I was taking courses, like if I couldn't access something or they wanted to like archive it or put it away and I was just like, dude, like I might need this someday.

Um, and then they didn't refresh it. Right. They didn't actually refresh it. They were just like, we're gonna archive it. And you're like, well, where's the new version. They're like, don't worry about it. You don't need it. And you're like, no, I, no, I need that. I need bring it back, please. Um, so for me, it's like, I refresh the course, but also I think it's important to have access to that material.

Um, and to be able to kind of get it in a digestible way where you can actually move forward. You guys chit chatting. I see like the thing coming up in the chat and you guys are like, boo. Um, okay, there we go. Yeah. So I feel like it's really important to kind of have all those things in place. So those are the pros look for those things in a.

You wanna be supported. You wanna be able to move your business forward. You don't wanna be told to do like a thousand years of repetitive work. You wanna make sure that you actually have the tools of the framework and the ability to scale. You have a community, you can ask questions, you can get clarification and you also get the material in a digestible way that you can keep going back to over and over again.

So those are the pros part. Okay. Deep breath. Let's do a P date because everyone's being a sassafras. All right. P date in between. And then we're gonna talk about kind. So, alright for you and for the sass machine, Charlotte, what is this? Is this a rock, a piece of dirt. How did you get a piece of dirt up here?

It's been raining a lot here in Austin. So whenever they run around outside, they end up getting a whole bunch of dirt clumps in their nails. There they are. All right, Barry. Good boy. Barry's getting better. If everyone wants a Barry check, Bo's getting a lot better. He's uh, his eyes looking better than, than it has in a long, long time.

You can see his eyes still a little cloudy. That left eye is a little, little cloudy still, but he's doing great. He's back to his kind of like spicy self a little bit. Try, can you back up, back up, back on your ho hole. Good girl. Other one. Good girl. All right. High five high five. Good girl. I still miss Charlotte's first high fives at the vet and I'm still having a hard time dealing with that, but maybe next time I go to the vet with her that she'll, uh, she'll do them.

And then, then I can be there and see the vet, you know, the vet text and the vet be like, oh my gosh, you know, side five shell. You have to go back to your ha hole. You have to go back to your ha hole. You keep wandering, cuz you're like, I just wanna be over here. High five high five. Good girl. All right, let's get to cons.

I see you guys are being chatty today. That's good. That's the other reason I do this livestream. It's nice. I think to chat with other writers and learn things and all that stuff. So, um, let's see, Vicky says sometimes the course kick starts the process of becoming mentally ready for the action and you need to retake the material when you're more ready.

Yeah. That's totally true. There's plenty of times when you're doing courses where you're like, okay, let me just kind of absorb this and prepare myself to, you know, move forward. And then like, after you've kind of done the material, you've kind of absorbed it a little more and you're like, all right, I've kind of gotten over my fears.

I've kind of like gotten more mentally prepped to do this, and then you can retake the material a bit because you still have it. That's really important. All right. Two, let's talk about cons, things that are, um, hold on. Um, things that I would look for as red flags. So red flag is that if I'm taking a course from someone who hasn't really been a freelance writer that long, and they had.

2) What red flags to watch out for in a freelance writing course

Like success. That's very shiny, but it's not very substance E so this has happened before where I've gotten students where they're like, I took X course and I didn't actually learn anything. There was nothing in there that like, you know, was really that helpful. Um, or it was stuff that like only one person could do, right?

Like it's not repeatable. Uh, that's a big red flag. Like sometimes people have a lot of success and they're like, I know what I'll do. I'll just create a course. But that course ends up being very surface level. And you know, it's not a repeatable process. There's plenty of ways to become, um, a freelance writer.

There's, there's a lot of different paths, but when you make a course, it has to be something that you're giving people that they can take that, excuse me, they can take that blueprint and apply it to their business in a bunch of different ways. Like you give them a bunch of options and help them think through a bunch of stuff.

Right. That I think is really, really important. So you have to be able to have this course be more than just like, all I did was use this one website forever, and then you'll just have a business like now, like, especially when it comes to like bidding sites or when it comes to like content mill sites, um, that stuff, like if that site disappears, like number, number one, the course is now useless.

Number two if that site disappears now, you don't have a business and you don't even know how to create a business. Um, and three, you end up in this situation where you're like overnight, you have nothing. Right? So I think the important piece is you actually have to learn how to run a business like for a while before you're kind of getting into the course stuff.

So when you take a course, make sure that that person has experience. They've written for a bunch of different types of clients. They've been around the block for a while. Um, they have participated in like answering questions or helping other people or getting other people results. Um, and even if they haven't really gotten their, like, their results for themselves, even if they didn't get results for other people yet, uh, the results they've gotten for themselves are like, they get it.

Like they understand like how to do stuff. It's not just like make $10,000 today, like, I guess . Um, but that takes a while, right? Like, I can take you through the steps of like how I've made like 30 K in a month. Right. I can take you through the steps of how I've done that, but I'm not advertising like, Hey, everybody can make 30 K in a month.

Right. Like it, that would feel weird and cheesy. So I think that's a really important thing to pay attention to is like, it has to be some substance, like don't fall for the shiny stuff fall for the substance, fall in love with the process. So that's the first one. The second one is, um, for me, I think a red flag to watch out for.

um, when it sounds too good to be true, like there's a lot of courses that have a ton of copy where it sounds too good to be true. And they're not, they're saying it's like, it takes no hard work. It's flawless. All you have to do is give us some money and magically your freelance career will be great.

Like don't fall for that. don't fall for that. It takes a lot of work. This is a business you're running a business, it takes work. And if you're willing to put in the work and you're willing to try things and you're willing to experiment and you're willing to kind of, you know, do the hard stuff. Yeah.

You're gonna have a great, amazing freelance right business. But if you fall for this stuff where it's like, it's so easy, like it's not easy. I'm telling you right now, I've been a freelance writer for 10 years. I've talked to thousands of writers. I've helped all these people for seven years. Right. And I can tell you, like, it's not easy and there is no easy road to a long freelance writing business.

This is why people freelance for like a year or two. And then they go back to full time. Or they end up doing something else. It's all these things where like you have to learn the longevity pieces and the, the flashy stuff. And like, yeah, you can make six figures as a freelance writer, but you have to learn how to do that.

Like it's a fundamental process. And then there's a whole bunch of things you have to do and change to get there. It's not overnight. So if you start reading all this stuff about a course where it's like overnight, like you'll be able to do this, or like magically, everything's gonna change. Like it's not magic.

Like it's not magic. It's tested strategies. It's things that work that you have to then put in the work to make them work. Right? So that stuff is really important. I've, I've come across sales pages that are like super long, like super long saying all these things. And people take the courses. They spend like a bajillion dollars.

Like people spend like $3,000, $5,000 and I'm not shitting on the pricing. I think that however people decide to price, their course is their own business, but I've had students come to me saying that they've been taking these. Courses, and they haven't walked away with anything. Right. The course gives them a lot of promise and they haven't actually walked away with anything of value or they haven't walked away with like actual strategies for the long term or actual strategies.

Okay. Go back to your woo hole, go back to your woo hole, go back over there. And that really frustrates them. And then they take my course and they're like, wow, your course was way worth what I paid, like way more worth than what I paid. And I have a ton of stuff and I'm making more money and working less hours and I'm enjoying the community.

And now I have friends and, and, and right. And I don't say that because it's just like my course and the pricing and all that stuff. I'm saying that as like, it's really big con for freelance writers to spend all that money and walk away with essentially nothing. And you have to be careful about. like, you know, we're copywriters, right.

We're copywriters and we are content writers. So the content and the copywriting that's on a sales page for a course will probably be pretty good. Right. That's our job is to be good at that. Uh, so be careful about that. Be careful when you read through that, like, is this thing gonna gimme substance? Can it tell me what's inside?

Like, what am I gonna do in module one? Or what lesson one, or what am I gonna do here? Or what am I gonna walk away with? Like at least stuff that you can understand how to put, um, put the piece together of the course. And I find that a lot of time, it's just, um, there's just this a lot of really good copywriting on a sales page.

And then like we talked about like, there's an upsell to get the real information or you end up being frustrated that, um, Like you walk away with only like a handful of stuff. And I think that's a big problem, man. You guys are. Are you waiting? Okay. Trio. So I'm say I see the note for trio for whisper. So mini go back to your HAA hole.

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We've been joking that Bo kind of looks like a bond villain, you know, because his eye is all messed up. So he looks like one of the James Bond villains where he's like, you know, , he's like 50 years ago. My dad was shot in the eyeball while your dad and now James Bond, you're gonna die. So Bo kind of looks like a bond villain right now.

That's that's like our joke. All right. Let me check the chat real quick, cuz I see you guys are chit chatty. Um, okay. Um, you'll trade me for dirt clumps with your fabric dye. Sure, sure. Marie, um, yeah, so Getty says, uh, I wanted to sign up for the wealth lab course since inception, but my full time family caregiver role prevents me or precludes me from starting.

Maybe I can do this in bitesize repeat installments. I mean, Getty, it just depends. I know. Um, Getty, I, you and I have talked a whole bunch, so I know you have a lot of stuff going on and I think it's just kind of like, it just depends on timing, like for, so for me, like with the course, like you're gonna have lifetime access.

So if you did join freelance writer, wealth lab, uh, which I guess I should mention freelance started wealth lab is opening next Tuesday, the sixth. It only opens twice a year. It's gonna open on Tuesday, September 6th, and then it'll close on Tuesday, September 15th. And then it won't reopen until April 20, 23.

With the, with that, um, Getty, if you signed up for the course, you would have lifetime access to it. So you could do it however you want. This was something that I talked to other students about, whether it's vacations or caring for family members, um, or sick children or personal stuff that's going on or tough things that are going on, um, or physical and mental health, where people are dealing with a lot of stuff like that.

Um, I think you have to find the right time. So I think it kind of has to feel like you have to kind of find the right time that you're like, I'm kind of ready to sign up for the course and invest the money. And then also, like, I feel like if I take this course, I'll be able to do it on my own schedule.

Like everybody kind of does this course on their own schedule. Like we. Um, specific 10 weeks, right? Like where I go through it. Like, we, it drops over 10 weeks. We have implementation weeks. We have live Q and as all that stuff. Um, but you know, there's, there's, everybody has different things that pop up in their life.

So sometimes people get through three modules and then they drop off for three months and then they finish the rest of the modules later. But at least they have lifetime access to do that. But yes, you can do the course and bite size installments on your own schedule. But I do wanna say Getty, I know with all your stuff going on and it's, you've been having a tough time.

I think, you know, figure out if it's the right time to kind of learn more about it. If like, if it's the right time to like invest the time and energy, um, into joining the course, like the course is gonna continue on. And, and like I said, like when things kind of calm down, um, I never like to like tell people to just join it.

I just don't think that's a good idea. Um, but I think there's always kind of like a time where you're like, I have the mental space and I have, you know, time to do it. And I feel like the investment is worth. Um, and Getty, I think that's something to think about it. You can do it in bite size, installment, installments, like, and do the course on your own schedule.

You'll have lifetime access, but think about it as a time and energy investment too. Um, Vicky says, I love when I find a good teacher and they offer other collaborative programs with other teachers, um, that they choose for being about as good as them. It helps me find out which teachers are good. Yeah.

This is another thing that I think is, uh, yeah, the mermaid in the bond Villa and yeah, Charlotte's definitely the mermaid and Bo's definitely the bond villain right now. Vicky, this is a good point. This, I should have put this in pros. So yeah. The other thing that I think is important with courses is that they're bringing in other stuff, right?

So whether you have like, you have the core course material and then like, what we do in freelance writer, wealth lab is we have master classes. So I bring in other people. I've brought in an SEO expert. I brought in a content strategy expert, a long term retainers expert, a messaging and positioning expert.

One of my editors came in and taught about how to send pitches and work with editors. Um, she's my favorite. Um, she's my favorite editor who else came in? Um, we just had a whole, oh, we had a lawyer come in and teach about contracts and what to know about freelance writing contracts. Um, and then let's see what else was in there.

Was that all of them? Yeah, I think that's all of them we've had so far, but basically like when the course, when we finish the 10 weeks, we then have a masterclass series where I have other instructors, other people come in, who I know to teach good stuff and teach other things that kind of help you grow your business in different ways or help you deliver better content for your clients.

So I think that's helpful too, is like, there's kind of these nice bonuses that, that crop up along the way. All right. Let's talk about a few more cons and then we're gonna be hopping off. I see you. Do you wanna come say hello? Nope. You don't wanna come say. Care. I'm gonna squeeze you. she's like, don't squeeze me.

Give me something. I feel like I keep adjusting this and you just like, you guys just keep moving. All right, man. You ready? Hi guys. Good job. High five. Good job. You're so cute. You're so junk. And you're so cute. Ooh, you guys got moist JTS right now. I just got Ugh, slimed slimed. Um, Vicky says, what is this? A mermaid and a zombie.

Bo's not a zombie. He's not dead slash partially alive. He's fully alive. And just, he's like a bond Villa ish. Vicky says pro this teacher is endorsed by this other teacher that you know who only endorses good stuff. That is true. That's a good pro to add. All right, cons um, red flags. Um, okay, so red, like not red flags, but like one of the things is like freelance writing courses are an investment.

You have to pay money to get into them. Right. Um, it's not necessarily a con, but it's certainly like, you have to pay attention to like what you're getting for the money. So I've signed up for courses that are like $15 and courses that are like expensive or like on the higher end, right. Like not expensive, but on the higher end.

So the deal is that you have to kind of know what you're getting for the money. And a lot of times, you know, you end up paying all this money and you don't get very much. Um, and that's a big bummer. So make sure that the value that you're paying for the course actually matches up with what you're getting.

So, um, it's actually giving you a ton of information. It's helping you do a lot of stuff. It's giving you a lot of bonuses or giving you a lot of stuff that really helps support you. Gets you to the next step. I think that's really important. So it's not necessarily a con, but you do need to be careful about the price of like what you're investing in and your expectations of that.

Because sometimes I've seen people be like, I've spent all this money and I didn't get anything. And it was like many, many, many thousands of dollars. And I think that was more like, you have to be careful of judging what you're getting. Like what are you walking away with? Like, what's the transformation basically that you're getting, or what's the thing that, what is, how are things gonna be different after you've invested this money?

I think that's an important piece to really look at, um, the other thing that I wanted to watch out for when you're signing up for courses. Hold on. Well, go back over there, go back over there. Woo. Go back over there. Woo boo. Okay. Hello. You're just so funny. You're so funny, Minnie. Hey, good buddy. Good job.

Okay. Good girl. That was nice and gentle. Quick job. Good job fluffer. All right. Um, another con there's probably like a ton of cons or red flags that we can come up with. Uh, I think that it helps to, to take courses from people who have had a bunch of different clients. This was something that I kind of missed when I first started out where someone was like, all I do is write for this one type of client and I'm like, oh, that's so cool.

But then I kind of learned that like the freelance writers who really were making an impact are actually growing their businesses, wrote for a bunch of different types of clients, whether that was different niches or they wrote for like fortune 500 companies, plus startups plus magazines. Plus this plus that I found a lot more varied and deep experience from those who had more depth in their clients than they're like I've written for every blog.

And you're like, okay, uh, what else? You know, what else is going on? Cause that really gives them a deeper level of experience. So when I came across some courses where it was just like, you know, kind of stuff where it was just like, um, pigeonholed a bit, I found that that wasn't as helpful in helping me build a very strong business because if something happens and that one thing goes down now, your whole business is in trouble.

You need to have multiple pillars in your business. So that, like for example, uh, travel has struggled, right? Travel is one of my niches. It's struggled. Beep and that was just something where like I have other niches to kind of come in and, and make that make my business work. If all I did was travel writing.

Now I'm kind of stuck because I don't have anything else to, to kind of like hold onto right now with all the changes that are going on. Um, and you could make six figures as a travel writer, but you have to be able to have some other stuff going on. Like you have to have some kind of way to keep your business going when times are tough.

Um, and like I've seen a bunch of writers pivot out of travel into other things, and that's great. But I think when you're taking a course, you need someone who has enough varied experience to help all different types of students and to help people through the different phases of their journey. Like there's a phase where you're just like obsessed with blogging.

Okay, cool. Then there's a phase that you're obsessed with B2B tech companies. Okay. Then there's a phase where you wanna do messaging and positioning for like all these other things. Okay. But you need to be able to, um, have something where you have someone who can kind of take you through that. They have enough experience and they have enough students that they're like, yeah, I get it.

3) Benefits to joining the right freelance writing course and the costs to signing up for the wrong one

Let's talk about this. This is different than this. And they can kind of walk you through that when you kind of get into a pigeonhole situation with a course, you're kind of like, there's, there's not as much freedom to kind of grow your business. And there's not as many roots that you can take. Um, Vicky says, I evaluate whether a teacher's free materials give re real value.

And that helps me figure out whether paid stuff. Well, yes, I should have said this too. Vicky. You are on the ball today. So yeah, the another pro to talk about, I know we're kind of mushing pro and kind, but we're getting there. So, um, another pro is, yeah, like, are you getting value from the free stuff that that teacher is giving you?

That could be a very good signal, that their course could be a really good fit for you. So that's, those are the courses that I've invested in that I'm like, yes, this is the business. I love it. Or the templates or whatever, where I'm, I've given, um, I've done like a free email course, or I've done a watch their like, or watch, uh, read their blog posts or I've watched their videos or I've done their tutorials or I've taken their master classes.

Or this stuff actually gave me things to move forward with where I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe their free stuff is so amazing. Their paid stuff must be even more amazing. And I think the other thing to talk about here is that when we do free stuff, you can only go so deep, right? Like I only have so much time to talk about this in a live stream, right?

Like the live stream could be 30 minutes or an hour, but I don't actually get to go deep with everybody. But in the course, I get to go deep. I get to tell, instead of going, you know, two miles, you know, like when they say like, you can go wider, you can go deep, right. You can go like kind of this service ish.

And then you can go super deep with all the detail. That's what I get to do in the course. It's like, I get to take everybody in very focused sessions through the modules and lessons of like super deep, granular building materials, right. The things that actually make a difference that are really deep, like functional stuff.

And in the live stream, I get to do some of that. I don't get to do it at a deep level cause we only have so much time. And I wanna make sure that I cover a lot of the topics that are being asked right. In the course I get to like actually be like granular with all this stuff. And I think that that's really, really important.

So yeah, like if you're getting a lot of value from the free stuff or the free, whatever it is that someone's offering, that could be a really good indicator, that that course could be a fit for you. Or they could be a great teacher, um, or offer you a lot of information that could help you grow your freelance writing business.

Okay. Vicky you're on the ball. Joy says any thoughts about one-on-one coaching as opposed to workshops. Yeah. So there's a big difference. So like there's a difference between a workshop and a masterclass and a course. So your masterclass is just like a one hour focused. It could be two hours, but a masterclass is usually like a focused session of like here, like someone presenting material to you and teaching you stuff, your one-on-one coaching is like meeting the needs of that specific student.

I'm not getting on a call with a one-on-one coaching student being like, here's my presentation today. I'm like, fill out this form. So I know how to customize my coaching to what's going on. So the workshop piece could be like a random thing. So the masterclass is kind of like an overview. The workshop is like, let's talk about pitching editors.

And then one-on-one coaching is like, what are you struggling with joy? Let's talk about that. And the course is like, here's a blueprint of how to build a business. Here's like all the stuff you need to know to actually make money in the realm of freelance writing, it allows you to go deep into that thing.

So I hope that's kind of helpful. So for me, I think one-on-one coaching like a lot of times what ends up happening is I talk to my one-on-one coaching students about their specific stuff, but they could benefit from the course. Like if they're, I've had both, like I've had people be my one-on-one students and invest in the course and they're like, this is amazing.

Now I have both um, and the course supports the one-on-one coaching. So. Because there's a lot of times where I answer questions in one-on-one coaching sessions that are answered in the course. And if they take the course, now they have more advanced questions to ask me in one-on-one coaching. So the course provides this.

Nice. Can you go back to your HOA hole? You go back to travel. No, you just wanna win at me from over here, go back to Hale hole. So the course provides this nice kind of background framework information. And then the one-on-one coaching is kind of like, oh, like, how do we go deeper? Or how do I solve my specific things?

And I've had people do both. I've had people do one-on-one coaching, then take the course. And then I've had people take the course and then get one-on-one coaching. Um, it just kind of depends, but for me, the workshop thing is kind of like one topic, how to pitch an editor or, um, like how to write a case study.

And a masterclass is like, how do I take you through. Some specific steps for like building this freelance writing business, or how do I take you through like kind of an overview, big brush stroke kind of deal. Um, but yeah, I think that it, it also depends on the person like sometimes, um, oops, I didn't mean to do that.

Sometimes people do really well with one on one, but I also feel like if you don't wanna participate in the community, part of the course, you don't have to, but having the knowledge from the course really helps bolster one-on-one coaching. Cuz now it's like you have a bunch of stuff I would've already told you on one-on-one coaching and you can save your one-on-one coaching sessions for like very specific questions to your situation.

So I hope that was helpful joy. Um, Marie says make sure the teacher comes from the same place that you do. I had a mentor, um, at a course for clever exec in, okay. This is like too many. And an LG co and became a writer. I started my BI from scratch. Uh, she works for me as a mentor. Okay. Well, this is confusing.

Anyways. It sounds like Marie you're saying that like you had a course where someone was an executive and they became a writer. And that wasn't like at the same thing as starting from scratch. Like I started from scratch, which I think is what Marie's saying. And yeah. Now I'm like mentoring Marie, cuz she's still, you know, she still likes hanging out with me for some reason.

I don't know why. Um, yeah, joy that's the other thing is like, you need to invest in the things that make sense. So like if money is tight, then you need to figure out which one. Really makes sense. And for me, a lot of times, what I found with my students is like the course gives them so much stuff to keep them busy.

That then once they kind of like get their ducks in a row, right? Like they have these, these chunky lessons from the course, then they're like, oh, okay. Here's what I need from one on one. Like they have a more focused idea of what they need from one-on-one coaching because a lot of times writers come to me and they're just embarrassed.

Like they're embarrassed to ask questions in a group they're embarrassed that they don't know stuff. So they do one-on-one coaching. Cuz they're like worried that the course won't be specific enough or that the course, um, will like they don't know as much as other people or they're shy or nervous, but I can tell you, like I've had this situation a bunch where people have taken the course and they're like, oh, this answered 90% of my questions.

Now I have 10% of my questions for 1 0 1 coaching, which like I are specific to me. So for me, um, there's that, and also this is another reason why I made a payment plan for my course. So. Uh, freelance writer, wealth lab, um, is 9 97 for full pay. And that comes with a one-on-one coaching session, plus a review of an LOI, a pitch, a writing sample, your website or LinkedIn, but you can do the payment plan, which is 180 7.

It's a six pay. So it's 180 7 for six months. Um, and usually people like end up, you know, earning a bunch more money and then paying for that. And then it's not a big deal. Right. So basically the course is like you get the course material, um, with enough time to like make up the co like, I always kind of look at it as like one article can pay for the course, like one good article that you get from a client can pay for the course.

Um, and if like that's for me is kind of like, or one client can pay for the course. So one article or one client can pay for the course. Um, so it just depends like, honestly, I, I kind of feel like for me, when I look at the difference between people who did one-on-one coaching, then the course and the people who did the course, then one-on-one coaching.

I have found that it was a better investment to do the course and get the meet and then do specific one on one, if they needed it. Right. If they wanted one on one still, then they were like, okay, I know you talked about this in lesson three, but how do I do it in my situation? Or I know you talked about this in module four, but I really wanna do ABC.

How do I change that to do what I wanna do? Like that's kind of helped more helpful with one-on-one coaching. Okay. So I hope that was helpful. Um, we'll put, teach up here. Teach says the course has a lot of live Q and a sessions that clever your students will treat as one-on-one coaching sessions. Yeah.

That's another tricky thing. So yes, the, we have, um, in freelance writer, wealth lab, we have, um, Twice weekly live Q and a for 10 weeks. And then I also do them in the community. So like you have 10 weeks of twice weekly live Q a where you can ask any and all questions. And then you can ask any questions specific to you.

I've answered all types of questions where it literally only applies to one student and then it PO it like blew their business up. Like, um, there, I have a student where she's in a very specific set of industries. Um, and she finally got into the door and like, things have been kind of growing for her, but she's always had questions that are like very specific to her, which is like what she would've asked and what oh one go do anyways.

But she gets the value of it through the live Q a. So you get twice weekly live Q and A's. You can ask any questions you want. There are no dumb questions. Like, I, I always kind of encourage my students. I'm like, don't be nervous. Chances are, I've had dumber questions than you. like at some point in my career, I've asked a stupider question than you.

Like, your questions are not stupid. Like, trust me, you need the, if you need the knowledge, get it. So yeah, like a lot of our students will be like, I have this question that's specific to my one client. What do I do? And I'm like, let's talk about it. And what ends up happening is they think that that one question only applies to them.

Right? Like, I'm kind of thinking that too. And then it turns out that like three of my other students were like, that totally works for me. I'm so glad you talked about it. You know, that kind of stuff. All right. Um, let's see. Yeah. Oh, Maurice C level exist. Execs. Okay. Helpful. Good joy. I'm glad that was helpful.

Um, Vicky says that's a helpful explanation of what to use one on one for, yeah. I feel like one OnOne like the course material should be, here's kind of like your building blocks one on one should be like, I've got the building blocks now. How do I adjust to my stuff? Like one-on-one should be specific things.

It shouldn't be like spending money on stuff where it's like, you don't, you know, just teaching you how to do the regular framework, which I've done. And I'm happy to do it if like people wanna do that over the course. But I always kind of feel like the course gives you all the, the building blocks and the one-on-one coaching is like, how do we actually do this in a way that's like, for me, how do I actually like adjust a bit?

Yeah. Uh, Marie says, oh, this is for joy. Okay. Marie says, well, in any case, she took some jobs to pay for the course. um, what time you guys have so many comments? It's hard for me to keep up. All right. I'm gonna take two down because we've kind of finished that I'll maybe go back to it. Um, if you feel like this has been helpful so far, give it a thumbs up.

If you feel like you wanna learn more about building a hiring freelance writing business subscribe. Um, okay. Joyce says, what time of day are these live? Q a um, they are at 6:00 PM on Tuesday, 6:00 PM. Central time. So it's um, wait a minute. 4:00 PM. Pacific 7:00 PM. Eastern on Tuesdays and on Thursdays. Um, they are at 11:00 AM central, so they're at 9:00 AM Pacific and 12:00 PM Eastern.

All live Q and a are recorded. You get them all, all of them are recorded. So here's what a lot of students do. If they can't make it live, they go into our community in the live Q and a question space and they drop all their questions. And then I just answer 'em on the live Q and a, and then they get the recording, you know, they go review it the next day.

So this I think is really helpful to know is like, you don't have to be there, live for the live Q a you, lots of students show up and we have a good time and we giggle and answer questions. Um, but the deal is that the live Q and A's, you always have the option of asking questions and they will always be answered.

Like you go in the live Q and a space. You're like, I have a question about this. And then you're like, oh shit. It's like, you know, 3:00 AM in the morning when she has this live Q and a, I'm not gonna be there, um, on time, but you can ask the question, the thing gets recorded. You can watch it the next. So the questions always get answered.

You don't have to be there live. I've had students who are even in my same time zone , um, they're they're on central time and they just can't make it to live Q and A's, but they consistently put questions in there and then I answer them and they just watch it the next day. So you get all the replays. So from the very beginning of the course, you get every single replay of all the live Q A's.

You can ask questions whenever you want. They'll always get answered. So you don't have to be there live. Um, they are live because I think it's more fun that way. And we often have a lot of questions asked while I'm live. So like, I'll go through the questions in the live Q and a question space first.

Then if there's any questions in the chat, just like here, I'll pop 'em up and do those two. Um, so yeah, like we always oh, and working Wednesday. Yeah. That's another bonus of the course. So the live Q and A's we also in, um, Institute of working Wednesday. So every Wednesday from 11:00 AM to 1:00 PM central time.

So. 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM Pacific and wait a minute, 11, 12 to 2:00 PM Eastern. We have working Wednesday where we all hop on, um, and we work together and get things done and we chit chat and, uh, that's always a fun time. Oh yeah. That was very thing. Yeah. Marie asked me a question, uh, 10 times and I noodled on it.

10 different ways. Yeah. You can ask me the same question, a bunch of different ways, and I can give you a bunch of different answers too. So, um, don't worry that you're always gonna get the same answer too. That it's always like repetitive. Like if you have different tweaks or things have changed, you can always ask another question.

Hmm. Okay, cool. I'm trying to catch up. Um,

yeah, so, okay, cool. Um, let's see. Um, okay. I'm gonna just call it. I was gonna, I don't know. Let's see if I think about, um, let me look at my stuff. Yeah, so I'm just gonna talk about it. So, um, here's the deal. My, we have the free masterclass going on next week. So the free masterclass, like I said, if you go to mans.com/masterclass one, or if you go to mans.com/masterclass two, or if you go to manss.com/masterclass three, we have three different masterclass slots.

They are free one hour class, they have live Q and a in them. So if you wanted to come join the class, um, and ask some questions, you totally can do that. It's only taught twice a year. It's not coming back until April 20, 23. So you, if you wanna join the free class, you totally can. The other thing is, um, the wealth lab is opening up on Tuesday.

So if you wanna know about freelance writer, wealth lab, go to man.com/course and sign up for the wait list. So that is, um, freelance writer. Wealth lab is like my blueprint course. So it's my it's like, not even, it's like the blueprint. That's been proven by myself and my students and all of the different ways that you can build a freelance writing business.

So I take you through all of the framework pieces, so you can earn more and less time and actually build a business that lasts, um, and get all your stuff together. But also like I'm giving you a ton of options. That's one of the things that my students have mentioned in the past is like my course ends up giving them a lot of different roots that they can take with their business.

And, um, that allows them to kind of build a business. They really love cuz it actually works for them. I'm not just saying like there's only one format do that. Um, but if you're interested in the course, it is opening up for enrollment on Tuesday, September 6th. It'll be open from Tuesday, September 6th through uh, Thursday, September 15th.

And then it'll close till April 20, 23. So if you wanna check it out, um, and you wanna learn more about it and join the wait list, go to mans.com/course, um, Yeah. I only opened the course twice a year cause I wanna make sure it's a focused group for the students and, um, that it's not like an overwhelming amount of people starting at 800 different places all the time.

So yeah, if you wanna hang out and uh, come check it out and join the wait list. It's man.com/course enrollment will be September 6th through September 15th and then it will close. Um, and it won't reopen until April, 2023. All right. Cool. Um, okay, so it seems like I'm, that's, that's my spiel for today. I have we'll do this again.

We'll do pros and cons of courses again, cuz there's other stuff I wanted to say, but we've already been here for a long time. Um, so if you found this helpful, give it a thumbs up. If you feel like you wanna learn more about building a hiring freelance writing business subscribe. Um, thank you everybody for the questions.

I feel like we talked about a lot of important stuff today, uh, make sure that you invest in the right course for you. And I think that that's an, the last important thing. Um, if you feel like the, like the teacher or the person that you're looking at for the course is, has been giving you value or you click with it, or it makes sense.

That could be the course for you. Um, don't get stuck. Like don't get sucked in by like, you know, billions of dollars in five days. Like really get the meat of the course, um, get to that because that's the important piece. That'll help you build a long term business. That's the stuff that'll help you get through all the struggle points and all the tough stuff.

And, um, we'll give you a long lasting freelance writing business and let you write for, you know, years and years and years. Um, alright, so I'm hop. I'm hoping this was helpful. We've got the furs. Well, partially Charlotte, go back to your HAA hole, go back to your HAA hole. You go there. I thought, good job.

Good job. There. We. All right. We're here every Friday at noon central time for the live stream. I hope everybody has a good, uh, it's labor day. Right? So , I hope everybody has a good labor day weekend. Um, stay safe out there, stay healthy. Um, and, um, yeah, I hope everyone is a good weekend and I'll see you next Friday.

Bye. Oh, and I hope I see you at the masterclass. It's free. Come hang out. It's fun. all right. Bye.

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